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posted on 2003-5-15 at 21:23
Anyone actually seen it yet? Do not read below if you don't wanna know the ending.

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There is no Zion!! Its actually a Matrix inside a Matrix!!

































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posted on 2003-5-15 at 21:46
dont listen to shifty, he's only making an assumtion.

i saw the movie about an hour ago. really good movie, though i didnt care for the 10 min wanna be porno near the begining...anyway, it was a good movie, alot of cool action stuff, but really nothing that wasnt shown off in the first movie (not much that is, a few new things). but regaurdless, like i said, great movie.

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it kinda makes u wonder if thats the case though doesnt it?



























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posted on 2003-5-16 at 15:13
I thought the crazy rave/dance/love making scene was designed to reflect the circumstances where Neo and Trinity first meet (If you remember the first matrix). However I DID think it could have been made a bit shorter.





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posted on 2003-5-17 at 03:20
the ending was a disappointment.. at least the next one comes out soon.

the best bit is when neo was fighting the hoardes of Agent Smiths.. especially when he wrenches out the lamp-post





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posted on 2003-5-17 at 03:47
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I thought the crazy rave/dance/love making scene was designed to reflect the circumstances where Neo and Trinity first meet (If you remember the first matrix). However I DID think it could have been made a bit shorter.


i thought it was designed to show that the producers can waste alot of time by doing something like that





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posted on 2003-5-17 at 03:49
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i thought it was designed to show that the producers can waste alot of time by doing something like that


my thoughts exactly





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posted on 2003-5-17 at 21:23
Did anyone pick up any of the history and mythology references?





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posted on 2003-5-18 at 03:10
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Did anyone pick up any of the history and mythology references?


they are pretty obvious





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posted on 2003-5-18 at 04:41
The persephone and Merovingian scene was a HUGE throwback to the history nerds (me)

the Merovingians were the line of Kings that came before the Carolingians in 13th century France (I think it was 12th or 13th... I can't remember which). They were corrupt, greedy, and power-crazed control freaks, and aimed to keep the lineage alive thorugh heredity and such with no real concern for anyone outside of their circle...

in the movie, the Merovingian was French, power hungy, and based his arguments on the idea of choice. And he showed no concern for anyone but the people around him...

I loved that. They're even throwing us History nerds a bone. Sweet!

Persephone really gets into the mythology stuff too. Persephone was abducted and raped by hades ("hell" and made the queen of the underworld. she hated it there, but had to stay, just like persephone in the matrix. the greek one hated her husband, just like the matrix one.

as soon as he said her name, I knew something was gonna happen with her.

Chris, were those the ones you were thinking of?

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posted on 2003-5-18 at 15:16
Great movie





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posted on 2003-5-18 at 18:45
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Chris, were those the ones you were thinking of?



i must admit that i didn't know so much detail, but yes, i was thining of those and of various other biblical and mythological references.





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posted on 2003-5-18 at 18:46
I didn't catch any biblical references. Share them if you please?





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posted on 2003-5-18 at 18:47
has anyone got any information regarding how the new video game ties in with the film? i heard that parts of the story are only revealed in the game and not in the movie.

i want to know what they are





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posted on 2003-5-19 at 21:08
I'm seeing it wednesday night *rubs hands together*






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posted on 2003-5-20 at 16:38
i've decided that the first one was a stronger film. yes i have.





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posted on 2003-5-20 at 21:08
I saw it again last night. You definantly appreciate it more the second time. You catch even more stuff that you missed the first time around.





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posted on 2003-5-20 at 21:11
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has anyone got any information regarding how the new video game ties in with the film? i heard that parts of the story are only revealed in the game and not in the movie.

i want to know what they are


I'm not sure as I haven't seen the film yet, but I can say that the game is really is good.

Gonna go see Reloaded soon, probably on the weekend, so I can let ya know then






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posted on 2003-5-20 at 23:27
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I'm not sure as I haven't seen the film yet, but I can say that the game is really is good.

Gonna go see Reloaded soon, probably on the weekend, so I can let ya know then


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posted on 2003-5-21 at 03:34
k, I just got back from this movie. Maybe I'm critiquing movies too hard, or maybe I didn't get the movie but I thought it sucked major ass. I was seriously falling asleep through some parts.





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posted on 2003-5-22 at 09:08
I thought it was awesome.
And for others like myself who read the "spoilers" "by accident", don't worry about it - it doesn't spoil anything. The movie is so damn hard to understand anyway that for all I know, that spoiler might not be true. Or maybe it is. I'll have to watch it again.

Yeah... the hordes of Smiths. And the keymaker is cool.

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posted on 2003-5-22 at 17:20
I saw it today.

I think it was a sweet film, but it was hyped too much which made it a tad disappointing. The loads of Smiths owned, and the fight in the chateau was cool.

There are quite a few tie-ins with the game, and they are quite clever. The most obvious one would be the freeway scene, where you have to drive the car up to the trucks and catch Morpheus as he falls onto the bonnet.

There is a whole level in the game where you have to blow up the power plant at the end also.

There are numerous other little things you notice, which is kinda cool






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posted on 2003-5-22 at 18:46
I don't get it. Who is that French dude? Why did he capture the keymaker? Why is it so hard for the matrix to find Zion to destroy it, can't they just follow one of the ships? What happened to Tank, I don't remember him dying in the first one? Is Smith a good guy or a bad guy? Why doesn't Neo and everyone just get bigger guns to beat their enemies? Etc Etc.





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posted on 2003-5-22 at 18:52
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What happened to Tank, I don't remember him dying in the first one?


jawohl. what happened to that man?





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posted on 2003-5-22 at 21:12
Tank got his house owned by Cypher when Cypher shot that ray of electricity at him. He came back long enough to kill Cypher though, then he died.





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posted on 2003-5-23 at 04:39
He was a true hero, *sniff*





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