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posted on 2003-10-7 at 21:41
.... am i the only one totally and utterly dissapointed with this video? I mean put fan blindness aside and be honest here... it sucked. There are way too many points in this thing where the instrument playing does not go along with what's being heard. It's completely ameture... sub ameture. I don't understand why it's so exciting to watch a poorly dubbed video recorded by a hi8 video cam ( or at least something that looks hi8). And on top of that, after hearing the song twice, I couldn't take any more!!! ARE YOU GETTING LAZY OR SOMEHTING???? GEEZE CHRIS, WHERE'S THE QUALITY SONG WE WERE PROMISED???






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posted on 2003-10-7 at 21:44
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.... am i the only one totally and utterly dissapointed with this video? I mean put fan blindness aside and be honest here... it sucked. There are way too many points in this thing where the instrument playing does not go along with what's being heard. It's completely ameture... sub ameture. I don't understand why it's so exciting to watch a poorly dubbed video recorded by a hi8 video cam ( or at least something that looks hi8). And on top of that, after hearing the song twice, I couldn't take any more!!! ARE YOU GETTING LAZY OR SOMEHTING???? GEEZE CHRIS, WHERE'S THE QUALITY SONG WE WERE PROMISED???





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posted on 2003-10-7 at 21:47
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posted on 2003-10-7 at 22:00
Why don't you stop for a minute amidst your rambling and consider that The Livid don't have thousands of dollars to spend on a video.

So what if the video is pretty plain? As far as band's first videos go it's a hell of a lot better than most of us thought it would be.

And it's amateur.

[Edited on 7-10-03 by Hyde]






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posted on 2003-10-7 at 23:14
Hyde stole my post! Poobafinger, you have to realize that these guys aren't made of money to create a billion dollar music video. I thought it was well done for an amateur video, and I'm sure that I'm not the only person who wants to kick your ass after reading your post.
So in closing, if you don't like the video... why don't you make a better one.. for free?

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 00:13
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.... am i the only one totally and utterly dissapointed with this video? I mean put fan blindness aside and be honest here... it sucked. There are way too many points in this thing where the instrument playing does not go along with what's being heard. It's completely ameture... sub ameture. I don't understand why it's so exciting to watch a poorly dubbed video recorded by a hi8 video cam ( or at least something that looks hi8). And on top of that, after hearing the song twice, I couldn't take any more!!! ARE YOU GETTING LAZY OR SOMEHTING???? GEEZE CHRIS, WHERE'S THE QUALITY SONG WE WERE PROMISED???


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posted on 2003-10-8 at 00:59
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.... am i the only one totally and utterly dissapointed with this video? I mean put fan blindness aside and be honest here... it sucked. There are way too many points in this thing where the instrument playing does not go along with what's being heard. It's completely ameture... sub ameture. I don't understand why it's so exciting to watch a poorly dubbed video recorded by a hi8 video cam ( or at least something that looks hi8). And on top of that, after hearing the song twice, I couldn't take any more!!! ARE YOU GETTING LAZY OR SOMEHTING???? GEEZE CHRIS, WHERE'S THE QUALITY SONG WE WERE PROMISED???


Wow. You're quite the jackass, aren't you?

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 01:06
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posted on 2003-10-8 at 02:05
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.... am i the only one totally and utterly dissapointed with this video? I mean put fan blindness aside and be honest here... it sucked. There are way too many points in this thing where the instrument playing does not go along with what's being heard. It's completely ameture... sub ameture. I don't understand why it's so exciting to watch a poorly dubbed video recorded by a hi8 video cam ( or at least something that looks hi8). And on top of that, after hearing the song twice, I couldn't take any more!!! ARE YOU GETTING LAZY OR SOMEHTING???? GEEZE CHRIS, WHERE'S THE QUALITY SONG WE WERE PROMISED???

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 03:05
If i had read this before i had responded to a previous post in which i had expressed friendlyness to you Poobafingpiss, i would have completely Bashed you

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 03:07
PS. Incubus is not an "ALT POP SOFT ROCK BANDS THAT THINKS THEY'RE HEAVY" buster!

And neither are the Livid!

[Edited on 8-10-03 by armour_guitarist]

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 03:36
whoa .... sure caused a disturbance here....i think thats your sign to leave
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posted on 2003-10-8 at 13:49
I know "Incubus is not an "ALT POP SOFT ROCK BANDS THAT THINKS THEY'RE HEAVY!"". Incubus is a great band, and I just think that they influence The Livid a little too much in 'certain songs' anyways, it's always good to see such strong support for a local band like this. I don't know why you're getting all pissed off at me, I'm just speaking my mind, and I think I have a right to be dissapointed with this video. If you're getting this pissed off just because I'm the only one that can be an honest critic here instead of a fanboy blinded by the fact that these guys live nearby me, then I'd hate to see what would happen if the livid were bashed on a radio station or on television. Judging by your anger and hatred towards me for simply saying that I don't like the video instead of saying that the "VIDEO ROCKS" and followed the crowd without deciding how much I like something on my own and letting others do it for me, I can only imagine that your reaction to a real critic would involve some sort of home made bomb.

I commend the drummer and the bassist as they were the only two in the video who actually didn't look like weirdos, and who actually looked like they knew what they were doing (and they didn't even get that much focus on the video, I mean come on, is the band called 'the livid', or is it called 'the justin chris and two other guys band'?). Not playing tapping leads in the middle of a chorus (sorry, but I didn't hear any lead being played during that part of the song) or doing an irish dance when they had nothing to do (Here's a thought, when the singer isn't singing, don't point at him, focus on the instruments). But once again, I'll probably get bashed for being honest. As for it being my time to leave, I'll let the moderators decide that. I don't think I've violated any rules, I simply spoke my mind.

Oh, and it's always good to see how intelligent board members are by seeing how creative they can get by bashing someone's name. Hoobafingbus = Hoobastank, Finger 11, and Incubus. If you don't know why then I'm not wasting my time explaining it. And anyways you should be glad that there's a fan who's not afraid to express what he really thinks about a band he follows. Trust me, it's better for the band to know their faults instead of letting them get worse.






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posted on 2003-10-8 at 14:53
I just do not think you fall into the "fan" category.

Sure, speak your mind...and actually this second post of yours (the one right above mine) is so much more mature, I don't think there was a need for the first one.

You also got to realize that typing LIKE THIS CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS because they're CAPS AND people take it as if you were yelling.

It's all about being congruent to what the situation really is here.





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posted on 2003-10-8 at 16:18
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Originally posted by Hoobafingbus_FAN_Number1I think I have a right to be dissapointed with this video.


You do. I know when I first saw the video, I didn't think it was as good as I had thought it would be.

However, you proceeded to insult the production of the video, which considering it's their first video, was quite unfounded.

As far as music videos go, yes, it is somewhat plain, but blatant bitching about $64's efforts were unecessary.

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 16:21
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I just do not think you fall into the "fan" category.

Sure, speak your mind...and actually this second post of yours (the one right above mine) is so much more mature, I don't think there was a need for the first one.

You also got to realize that typing LIKE THIS CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS because they're CAPS AND people take it as if you were yelling.

It's all about being congruent to what the situation really is here.


I'm sorry but I fail to see the incongruousness of my posts and fail to see how the last statement in your post has anything to do with the main body of it. Anyways, If anything I've been extremely consistant in my mannor here. Of course I'm in the 'fan' category. I am after all a fan, otherwise I wouldn't be wasting my time on these boards. Just because I'm honest about what I think about a band and it doesn't sit well with the majority of the people posting here, it doesn't mean that I'm not a fan of the band. My first post felt in no way immature when I wrote it, and looking at it now, it still feels quite the same. And yes I am aware that caps are meant for expressing a raised tone, that was the exact purpose of it. I'm a dissapointed fan. And I was venting out my frustrations as I feel I have the right to do considering all my expectations for this 'video' were thrown into the toilet.

*edit* and if you want to start talking about immaturities, point the finger at the board members resorting to calling me 'poopafingpiss' due to their innability to intelligently debate the subject at hand.

[Edited on 8-10-03 by Hoobafingbus_FAN_Number1]






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posted on 2003-10-8 at 16:28
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Originally posted by Hoobafingbus_FAN_Number1I think I have a right to be dissapointed with this video.


You do. I know when I first saw the video, I didn't think it was as good as I had thought it would be.

However, you proceeded to insult the production of the video, which considering it's their first video, was quite unfounded.

As far as music videos go, yes, it is somewhat plain, but blatant bitching about $64's efforts were unecessary.

[Edited on 8-10-03 by Hyde]


My point of view is that criticisim in any form should be considered constructive, and if anything it should drive $64 to create something of some substance in their next effort so as to please the hard to please. Those like myself.

I'm not the only one 'bitching' about the production here either pal. Adidas had his two cents about the lack of camera angle variety. Funny though, don't see anyone bashing him. And I severely doubt if he has anyone from this board messaging him telling him to 'fuck off' and to go 'fuck himself' as a few people seem to be doing to me. So once again, before attacking my sense of maturity, take a look at the others in this forum.






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posted on 2003-10-8 at 16:32
First of all, I'll apologize for whoever sent you PMs like that..that's not the way to solve things.

It is more than okay to be dissapointed, I still believe though that your "venting" went slightly overboard on your original message.
There's a much more educated/rational way of pointing things out.

[Edited on 8-10-03 by little_lady]





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posted on 2003-10-8 at 16:33
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posted on 2003-10-8 at 16:35
(looks at Ish's post)

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 18:31
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you're getting this pissed off just because I'm the only one that can be an honest critic here instead of a fanboy blinded by the fact that these guys live nearby me



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i really really hate to say this...but i didn't care much for the video.


just being pedantic.





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posted on 2003-10-8 at 21:08
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.... am i the only one totally and utterly dissapointed with this video? I mean put fan blindness aside and be honest here... it sucked. There are way too many points in this thing where the instrument playing does not go along with what's being heard. It's completely ameture... sub ameture. I don't understand why it's so exciting to watch a poorly dubbed video recorded by a hi8 video cam ( or at least something that looks hi8). And on top of that, after hearing the song twice, I couldn't take any more!!! ARE YOU GETTING LAZY OR SOMEHTING???? GEEZE CHRIS, WHERE'S THE QUALITY SONG WE WERE PROMISED???

If you're getting this pissed off just because I'm the only one that can be an honest critic here instead of a fanboy blinded by the fact that these guys live nearby me, then I'd hate to see what would happen if the livid were bashed on a radio station or on television. Judging by your anger and hatred towards me for simply saying that I don't like the video instead of saying that the "VIDEO ROCKS" and followed the crowd without deciding how much I like something on my own and letting others do it for me, I can only imagine that your reaction to a real critic would involve some sort of home made bomb.

I'm not the only one 'bitching' about the production here either pal. Adidas had his two cents about the lack of camera angle variety. Funny though, don't see anyone bashing him. And I severely doubt if he has anyone from this board messaging him telling him to 'fuck off' and to go 'fuck himself' as a few people seem to be doing to me. So once again, before attacking my sense of maturity, take a look at the others in this forum.




Alright... sorry for the long post... but obviously this guy doesn't understand the music business. Many indie bands... unsigned bands... come off with their first video with just them playing live at one of their shows. Honestly... I didn't think the video was great... but then again I hate music video's. They made one for the fans here... not to be on Much!... and they made it with $64... u expect MTV quality... ure not gonna have a camera crew and everyone else out there for hours trying to make it completly perfect for $64... most of the people here support the band and aren't gonna say it sucked or hated it... because u seem to be the only one...

When u try to shoot ure first music video... tell us how it turned out... see how much money u'll have available... how much equipment... and all that shit...

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posted on 2003-10-8 at 21:40
It didn't cost $64. That's just the name of the company.






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posted on 2003-10-8 at 22:12
lol i think he realizes that and he just says $64 cause he is too lazy to type 64 dollar production...kinda like me
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posted on 2003-10-8 at 22:30
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I know "Incubus is not an "ALT POP SOFT ROCK BANDS THAT THINKS THEY'RE HEAVY!"". Incubus is a great band, and I just think that they influence The Livid a little too much in 'certain songs' anyways, it's always good to see such strong support for a local band like this.


just wanted to point out that the Red Hot Chili Peppers influenced Incubus a lot early on, and that the RHCP themselves were clearly influenced by the bands of their time.

everyone starts somewhere.

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