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posted on 2004-1-6 at 02:08
check out "princess mononoke" then.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 02:12
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What the hell did u just say? Dude, at least make an attempt to sound a tiny bit smart. And if your trying to get accepted, agree with everyone. Don't say, your all treehugginggranolaeatingkumbayasigningfur-spraypaintingbirkenstockwearinghackeysackplaying tofu heads.. Cuz we will hate you. Just ask Hoobastank.

Anywho, blame your parents for fucking up our world and not allowing us to have a damn winter. Stupid parents.

Stupid world.


Yea you should watch out we all hated Hooba! but hes never here PIS so mr d cant ask him!





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 02:31
Chris (PIS) you honestly don't think everything should agree with everything everyone else says do you (like say not buying from ESSO)? ha ha ha like the tie in the subject. Life would be pretty boring if that happened.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 02:38
well pis chris has a point with the hoobastank guy and how mr d is acting





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 02:40
I wasn't really around for hoobastank...all Mr. D is doing is making people think about things that they believe in whether you think the same as him or not...it has made for some interesting discussions.

[Edited on 6-1-04 by Krista]





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 03:02
i quite like mr d :<

anyways, i know that great advances have been made on hydrogen and electrically-powered engines in the past few years. the oil won't last forever, and perhaps that is a Good Thing, for all of us.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 04:58
I like him, too. But I actually like Chris's dislike for him, too. It's quite amusing.
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posted on 2004-1-6 at 07:20
I ride my bike everywhere! hahahaha! beat that you fucking gas guzzelers!

of course i cant drive yet, so i have no other choice...

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posted on 2004-1-6 at 12:43
Hydrogen powered engines are a crock. Creating hydrogen wastes hideous amounts of energy and causes as much (if not more) pollution than burning fossil fuels. Don't get your hopes up. What we really need is for government to start putting money into the development of feasible alternatives.
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posted on 2004-1-6 at 13:11
"man, this gas stations fuel is the worst kind. next time i fill up my SUV i'm going somewhere else"

ladies and gentlemen, in order to prove a point, you absolutely can NOT sit on the fence. if you are concerned about what gas station is worst for the environment, go a level above the fuel pump. if you didn't drive everywhere, would there really be a need for gas stations?

next time you're doing 140km/h in mom's suburban while throwing big mac containers out the passenger window, stop. think. think some more. and decide if it's the faceless corporations and fat cat politicians who truly are the bad guys.

to this day, the term "consumer" makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 15:15
I think some people are trying. I heard yesterday that starting Jan 1 you will be fined if you don't yield to public transportation (buses) when they're pulling in and out of stops to let people off.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 15:56
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Hydrogen powered engines are a crock. Creating hydrogen wastes hideous amounts of energy and causes as much (if not more) pollution than burning fossil fuels. Don't get your hopes up. What we really need is for government to start putting money into the development of feasible alternatives.


it is indeed the extraction of hydrogen that is the problem. convention states that electrolysis is the easiest method - however this (unfortunately) requires a lot of electricity, which must first be produced. your argument regarding pollution is only relevant if the electricity is produced through the consumption of fossil fuels - if renewable sources were used then obviously this wouldn't be a problem. however, if you have so much electricity produced from renewable sources, why not power vehicles with that?

in theory, hydrogen is the ideal fuel. as we all (should) know, combustion of hydrogen produces only one product - water. if we could work out a way of effeciently extracting hydrogen from water, we have a 100% clean, utterly everlasting, fuel.

feasable alternatives would be what? Get R&D working on the Tube Technology.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 15:59
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next time you're doing 140km/h in mom's suburban while throwing big mac containers out the passenger window, stop. think.


you heard Asshole byDennis Leary i'm guessing?





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 18:17
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ladies and gentlemen, in order to prove a point, you absolutely can NOT sit on the fence. if you are concerned about what gas station is worst for the environment, go a level above the fuel pump. if you didn't drive everywhere, would there really be a need for gas stations?

next time you're doing 140km/h in mom's suburban while throwing big mac containers out the passenger window, stop. think. think some more.

to this day, the term "consumer" makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.



WOW Dude good point im not sayin your a bad guy n all case u seem kool with the pm's you sent me but ya where was i going ? FUCK stupid stupid me!! i forgot!!





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 21:49
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your argument regarding pollution is only relevant if the electricity is produced through the consumption of fossil fuels - if renewable sources were used then obviously this wouldn't be a problem. however, if you have so much electricity produced from renewable sources, why not power vehicles with that?



Agreed, but sadly renewable resources will go nowehere as long as a select few countries remain gung-ho on the idea of fossil fuels. Wind and solar power are in fact the ideal energy sources, unfortunately until someone yields the money to develop them and make them available to middle-class users they won't do us much good.

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posted on 2004-1-7 at 03:03
I love all the people who say that you can't be an environmentalist if you drive a car etc and if you DO drive a car or whatever you're a hypocrite. This argument is completely faceious.

Look at the world we live in. We're all dependent upon fossil fuels, even the environmentalists. It's about the choices you make. We all know that all gas companies pollute. By posting this I'm trying to give people information so they can make a choice, or perhaps spark them to research the issue on their own.





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posted on 2004-1-7 at 03:07
i dont drive i have to take public transit / a skool bus





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posted on 2004-1-7 at 04:55
soon i shall drive, and drive all day long(sorry guys but its exciting the "save the environment" can wait for me





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posted on 2004-1-7 at 18:47
well when i drive i'll prolly go to Petro Canada! NO esso for me!





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posted on 2004-1-7 at 22:53
there is no esso here so don't worry guys i wont be buying that





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posted on 2004-1-12 at 06:56
Crap, i now have to wait till im 15 and a half untill i can get my permit. damn laws!





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