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posted on 2004-1-4 at 18:22
Don't buy E$$O

Rob's post about his crazy gas station experience reminded me of a message all of you should know about. This is one way all of you and your families can help the environment. For those of you who don't know, Esso is a gas station. I'm not sure if you people have it in the USA or England but it's a pretty big chain of gas stations here in Canada.

Esso is doing more than any other company to stop international action to tackle climate change. We all want action to tackle climate change. But how can we stop Esso destroying our future and our children's future?

It's Easy: DON"T BUY ESSO.

1. Esso denies the climate change science:

Unlike Esso, scientists and governments worldwide agree that burning fossil fuels like oil and coal causes climate change. We all know our weather's getting weirder and scientists tell us why - but Esso isn't listening.

2. Esso is not investing in alternatives:

Esso is making a fortune from destroying the planet. But unlike other oil companies, Esso refuses to invest one penny of its $15 billion, U.S.-a-year profits in clean, renewable energy like wind and solar power.

3. Esso is sabotaging global action:

Esso has done more than any other company to undermine the Kyoto Protocol, the only international treaty to fight climate change. In fact, it's largely because of Esso that President Bush has abandoned Kyoto - and Esso's fighting hard to make sure Canada does the same.

4. Esso causes smog:

Esso makes Canada's dirtiest gasoline with the highest sulphur content of any company - and that means more smog.

To find out more or to order and action pack, get online:

www.stopesso.ca or call

1 - 800 - 320 - 7183

Pass this information on to your parents or whoever buys gasonline in your household.





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posted on 2004-1-4 at 18:29
Wow...
I honestly would have never guessed it was Esso,out of all chains.
I think that what we use is Sunoco...but then again, who knows
Thanks Jeff, that was quite an interesting article.
And...what would an "action pack" have inside?...





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posted on 2004-1-4 at 18:37
bring on the water-powered engine.





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posted on 2004-1-4 at 23:50
i havent seen Esso here in the states yet, but if i do, ill be sure to avoid them. thanks.





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 00:01
I live right behind an Esso...I shall go throw rocks at the workers muaha. Good fun.





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 00:02
arent smoke bombs better than rocks?

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posted on 2004-1-5 at 00:37
Or potatoe guns.*pop*





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 05:23
how about pee shooters... or cherry bombs.





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 05:39
The Greenpeace people and others were handing out tons of info on this at the REM concert a while back. By far their worst offence is not admitting that they are one cause of our environmental concerns.

Money into research and action plans to save our future on this planet is what we need urgently. I'm sure Allison will have a lot to say on this...





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 14:02
Aww,Ish cares about the environment.
I think everyone should be more like Ish, starting today.
*cocks gun* do it!





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 18:49
there are activist groups that do much more harm than good. some of the stuff that greenpeace does is awful - although i think that animal rights groups and activists are the worst offenders.





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 21:51
Whoa! wow i didnt know that! but i doubt my mom will change saying stupid shit like where did i hear it then say jeff is wrong but i'll try!





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 22:23
Chris is right, there are activists who only go out there to cause shit and do things that are immoral. The best weapon is information and a hip way to deliver it to your target audience.





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 22:24
Now I'm really LOST.





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posted on 2004-1-5 at 23:26
Jeff's point is a valid one but I urge all of you to do some research into causes such as this before jumping on political bandwagons. Some of the points in the Stop ESSO campaign are pretty weak, but I'll leave that for another day.

It sounds to me like ESSO is being nailed to the cross for the sins of all major oil companies. From my experience there are very few big-name petroleum operations that are environmentally (or socially) conscious. The fact that other gas companies are being heralded as "green" corporations is only a result of highly publicized and carefully orchestrated media stunts by groups like Greenpeace.

For instance, in 1995 Shell finalized plans to sink an obsolete oil-storage platform off the coast of Scotland. Though this is a widely accepted practice Greenpeace saw the event as a chance to make Shell look like the ultimate bad guy. Activists descended upon the barge as it was being towed out to sea and television cameras followed by the dozens. Try as they might Shell could not turn the activists away. As a result they conceded to return the barge to shore and spend millions of dollars to dispose of it on land.

Because of the tarnished image their company received, Shell spent years trying to revamp the way they were viewed by the public. Although they've done little more than issue a few hippie-friendly press releases and make some inflated statements about how "concerned" they are about the environment, people have eagerly bought into the facade.

Satisfied with their efforts, activists are now turning their attention to other companies.

Hence the ESSO campaign.

It's all politics.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a full-fledged tree-hugging hippie and think it's fantastic that this issue is getting some exposure. However, as someone mentioned above, groups like Greenpeace often do more harm than good when it comes to raising awareness and it's my hope that you guys see all sides of this matter before making conclusions.

As a side note, I just finished reading an amazing book by Naomi Klein called "No Logo" which details in great length the global phenomenon of corporate brands. One of her case studies includes the above story about Shell. It's an interesting (albeit depressing) read that I highly recommend.






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posted on 2004-1-5 at 23:35
but why do "tree-hugging hippies" drive 30-year-old diesel vans that pump out loads of nasty shit into the atmosphere?





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 00:35
good point Chris





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 00:36
It's all about image. I go to a school innundated by hippies. Some of them are really cool people but many of them have very contradictory ideas about living. Not that it matters since this has nothing to do with Esso...
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posted on 2004-1-6 at 00:53
I'm an environmental studies student at York, fairly Hippy-ish myself.

Esso is being nailed to the cross because they've allowed people a window of opportunity to do so. All major oil companies are doing bad things, we all know that. Some however, are giving money to researching alternative energy sources.

I didn't post this up here without doing my research.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 00:59
ok maybe it'll change my mums mind! who cares if your hippy-ish but if you did your research then good job!





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 01:05
here's a fucking thought you treehugginggranolaeatingkumbayasigningfur-spraypaintingbirkenstockwearinghackeysackplaying tofu heads..........

walk.


you're sucking from the teat of the cow you're slaughtering.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 01:18
What the hell did u just say? Dude, at least make an attempt to sound a tiny bit smart. And if your trying to get accepted, agree with everyone. Don't say, your all treehugginggranolaeatingkumbayasigningfur-spraypaintingbirkenstockwearinghackeysackplaying tofu heads.. Cuz we will hate you. Just ask Hoobastank.

Anywho, blame your parents for fucking up our world and not allowing us to have a damn winter. Stupid parents.

Stupid world.





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 01:19
quotation:
here's a fucking thought you treehugginggranolaeatingkumbayasigningfur-spraypaintingbirkenstockwearinghackeysackplaying tofu heads..........

walk.


you're sucking from the teat of the cow you're slaughtering.



True. And that's why I:

a) don't own a car
b) walk/bike/run/crawl to my destination whenever possible
c) take public transit if no other form of transportation is feasible

Unfortunately we live in a world that doesn't function without petroleum. Eliminating the use of oil products from our lives is impossible at this point in time.

[Edited on 6-1-04 by allison]

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posted on 2004-1-6 at 01:22
anyone who knows which side of this argument they're on knows exactly where that comment is directed, seeing as they are individuals who grasp coherant thought. dont sell "your people" short.

and i think someone told rosa parks to just go along with what everyone else says.

does anyone have fern gully on dvd? anyone?
[sarcasm for the daft among us]





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posted on 2004-1-6 at 01:57
I liked that movie!!





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