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posted on 2004-5-3 at 07:50
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Has anyone else noticed some of the new stuff the Livid have been doing in their songs? It has been mentioned that "At The Seems" is in 5/8 during the verses, but another one of their new songs "The Tide" (I think) is in 6/8, which is unusual for them. And Justin is screaming too... Anyway, I personally think it's working nicely. A nice variety.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 07:55
I don't know a thing about time signatures (not a fucking clue), so I can't really comment on that. But it sounds interesting...

The screaming is great, though. I've heard them play "the tide" probably 5 times now and I find the screaming is getting alot more intense every time I hear it. I'm liking it.

One thing i have noticed (not experimentation), is that "test run" is really fucking heavy. More so than any other song. It sounds different than other songs. I think it has alot to do with the extra bass string.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 07:56
Yes. From what I could tell there is a lot of low B string in that tune. While not being experimentation per se, it is somewhat of a different sound relative to some the majority of their stuff. It is a very "metal" riff.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 08:04
As far as I could see, he really reams on the open B during the intro. I couldn't tell the first time I heard it, but the next two times I could really feel it.

Maybe someone can give me an example of time signatures? I'd really like to understand it.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 10:53
What from I've heard, I'm diggin Justin's screaming, makes the song more intense and emotional.

Keep it up Justin





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 13:10
Not only does it have a lot of the low b-string, but the guitar I use in that song is tuned to B flat.






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posted on 2004-5-3 at 13:59
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posted on 2004-5-3 at 21:50
Chris(reivax)where'd u here this songcalled test run. I've never heard of it.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 21:51
Test run is their newest song that they have been playing live.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 21:53
Test run is my Fave Livid song, since i heard them do it in practise





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 21:55
Yeah, Test Run sounded amazing. I'm really liking their new shit.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:16
All their new stuff over all is pretty sick.. The style is very changed. Im thinking way back from there first demo tape lol, to their first CD.. second CD.. but man this new stuff is REALLY TIGHT ASS THOUGH!! I really like it. Although i still miss their Classic tunes which i wish at times i could at shows again like the old days hahah!!!

CONGRATS ON THE NEW STUFF!! and ROBH I got agree with u on the time signature,, their turning more mathematical lol. Alhtough the results are super sweet!! and i think i may have mentioned this.. but the screeming is SUPER awesome!! Congrats!!

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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:21
Justin and Adam have said to me a couple times that they are trying to bring back some older songs from Fear of Fading. Once Rob learns the bass lines, I guess. So I wouldn't worry about the older songs fading away.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:23
FALLING BEHIND!!!





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:26
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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:26
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another one of their new songs "The Tide" (I think) is in 6/8, which is unusual for them.


i'm almost certain the tide's verses are in 5/8, just like the at the seams verses.

i've been listening to a song all day which is in 5/16 superimposed over 4/4. it's crazy.






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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:28
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another one of their new songs "The Tide" (I think) is in 6/8, which is unusual for them.


i'm almost certain the tide's verses are in 5/8, just like the at the seams verses.

i've been listening to a song all day which is in 5/16 superimposed over 4/4. it's crazy.


What does this all mean!?!

I'm going to just search the net and learn this time signature crap. I just don't get it.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:33
yup, you definitely should. do you know any music theory? even as basic as quarter notes, 8th notes etc? you gotta know bars... (maybe you call them measures over there). a time signature just says how long each measure is. 4/4 means four quarter notes per measure. 5/8 means five 8th notes per measure. that's pretty much all it is.






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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:36
I was a band geek, so I had to learn all that





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:39
I am forced to sit through 20 minutes of music theory every morning. It drives me nuts. Altough, tomorrow I get to play the drums for 3 hours and 45 minutes with some boys from another school. Should be fun. They had better be hot...or else....





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 22:39
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yup, you definitely should. do you know any music theory? even as basic as quarter notes, 8th notes etc? you gotta know bars... (maybe you call them measures over there). a time signature just says how long each measure is. 4/4 means four quarter notes per measure. 5/8 means five 8th notes per measure. that's pretty much all it is.


It's all gibberish to me. None of that made sense. haha. It's definitely time to learn some of that shit. This would explain my awful power tabbing abilities, Bart. I can't stress enough how little I actually know about theory.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 23:06
Music theory = amazing.





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 23:12
Music Theory- lots of work, lol





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posted on 2004-5-3 at 23:14
the scream's fucking amazing.....i never expect it. it's very good.....their new stuff sounds awesome






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posted on 2004-5-3 at 23:18
Someone NEEDS to tutor me in Music Theory...I have my final coming up soon and I never paid any attention...
I don't even think I can come up with a pentatonic scale or something...

I did however understand the time signature part, seeing as how I use that all the time for singing..

Chris..let me try and explain it.
Take for example the time signature 4/4
This means that there are 4 beats per bar, and that the quarter note gets the beat.
Unless you can hear it..it's kinda hard to explain,like..if you were infront of me, I'd show you the differences between time signatures by tapping something, or hitting a table haha..

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